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Newest Message: wish the NRFA had given the draw more publicity nt by mgw on 9/9/2010, 01:06:24 - View Thread
Thread: 65581
safc home to stokesley,pikes at redcar athletic kms home to nunthorpe athletic,
drawn tonight live on radio tees by alister brownlee and nrfa officials
didn’t know it was on tonight. I would have tuned in.
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despite our recent upturn in form and their recent downturn in it, I’d still bite your hand off for a draw at Throstle nest though, even though it would be my first non Boro win there.
because in the game that I watched tonight, Farsley drew 1-1 with Hall Road Rangers.
but I’d still take the draw ;-)
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I only hope you come on here when we lose next to some below par team and explain why.
election time.
Thank goodness for democracy.
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next time we win, I hope you come on here to say well done!
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Wow. According to their twitter, there are 2,734 at the Deva tonight watching Chester take on Trafford in the Evo-Stik Northern Premier League First Division North (to give it its full title).
Anybody jealous?
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twofold, (a) that they are able to play at the Deva but also (b) that even if we were playing Dinnington at the McCain Stadium (Athletic Ground) last night we would not have got CLOSE to 2734.
no we wouldnt but in three years time for a run of the mill game will they? id say we are similar supported clubs, they have a buzz about them at the mo, prob a similar one to that well have when we start playing again at the new ground where i can see a crowd of that for our early games
Gateshead, who have gone full time and are in the Conf Nat got 471 last night.
That makes our gate look amazing.
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A great achievement this morning from all involved in making it happen - an extremely well attended private members’ debate in Westminster Hall on the "Role of football supporters in the governance of professional football clubs". The full debate is available online if you have a spare couple of hours. I’ve watched about half of it so far - highlights include the first chair of the Fulham supporters’ trust (now an MP) singing the praises of Supporters Direct at around 10.35am, and also the MP for Merthyr just after him.
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=6560
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How fantastic has Blott been in the last two games? Out of 7 goals the only one he didn’t have a direct involvement in was Hotte’s.
I don’t even think he’s been at his best yet… can’t wait to see how much damage he’s going to do when he’s firing on all cylinders.
you will actually see Blotty was involved in Hotte’s goal, he passed the ball to Law :-0
Yes I thought he was a class above last night.
I think Ingram is the "old" head and organiser we have needed, and Hawkes has given us a great balance on the left.
Not trying to be controversial here, but of the Scarborough based players who have become available over the last 2/3 years I think our manager has proved his worth by only signing the ones who improved our team. I believe a lot of the Town lads are good players who will prove to be good at this level and perhaps even above, but what would be the point in signing them if we already had players "as good". I think credit should go to France for this.
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I just cross my fingers and hope it all comes to fruition and there are no problems on the horizon.
I remember looking at the architect drawing ages ago but can someone confirm the facilities being provided? Football, athletics yes but how about a swimming pool or anything else?
Also is the plan for an all weather pitch like the pitches that the council et al. viewed on their recon mission up North?
….that’s as in an athletics track around the football pitch?
How do we feel about that?
Beggers can’t be choosers.
As stated, beggars cannot be choosers but…..
I have been to three football grounds that had athletic tracks (Gateshead, Sheffield FC & Meadowbank Thistle FC - all three games had a "dead" atmosphere and I felt a strange sense of isolation from the action on the pitch.
Perhaps it was because I was there as a neutral, I don’t know, but I don’t like running tracks around pitches - they act as a barrier between the fan and the action.
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Given the choice between a football ground on the Weaponess site (with an athletics track round it) or being exiled in Bridlington for all time, it is of course a no-brainer!!
We also have to remember this is to be a "community" stadium.
This complex has to pay it’s way so the more people that use all the facilities the better.
Onwards and Upwards with the Boro.
….the council are on record as saying they want a sustainable football stadium. An athletics track around a football pitch is not that.
And I am fully appreciative of the need to engage with and respect the views of other stakeholders and interested parties.
And beggars? Does that mean we just shrug our shoulders and have to accept whatever we are told we are going to get?
Somewhat ironically Pindar would be the ideal location for an athletics track.
http://scarborough.gov.uk/Default.aspx?page=15445
Build stadium to Grade C status
ready for 2014/15 season
Has it always been the case the ground would "only" be grade C.?
I’m aware I’m getting ahead of myself but this would limit us to the Northern Premier.
….it would be grade C to start with but could then be upgraded to B and then A if and when promotions warrant it?
I sincerely hope this is the case!
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so long as there is potential for us to expand the ground should we require it in the future………Perhaps we need to make sure the B2B fund continues after we get into the new ground to part finance further development to grade B standards……Reallistically we surely have to be looking at 8 to 10 years before requiring a grade B ground…..That is 8 to 10 years of saving we can do.
****If we aim for the stars we might just hit the moon!****
Look lets get the bloody thing moving first then tell em what we need.
Right now I would take Pindar school ground if it means we are back in Scarborough
I don’t think an athletics track will be an issue because there won’t be room for one. There is only just enough room for a football stadium at Weaponness, without trying to put an athletics track around it as well.
but for me (particularly when i was younger, 10 or so) is the walk along seamer road into town usually about 50 mph trying to keep up with my dad
who was trying to get home for final score, before the days of digital tv and the tinterweb
if not id be sent out about 7 oclock for the green paper (is that still going?)
Mind you I don’t remember either!!
But yes walking to the ground was a great feeling which is why the Eastfield game at the college in July felt so special to me, and was a feeling I want to experience again on a regular basis.
There is no room for a track at Weaponness. There are many other disciplines involved in athletics that don’t need the requirement of a track that could be provided at Weaponness.
As for sports papers. As far as I’m aware I think only Sheffield still does them (or at least they did a couple of seasons back). We used to be able to get a Hull Green Un. The York paper was pink and the Mercury had a late edition until the 80’s with a full Boro match report. In those days it was often the first we got to know of the full time score at 6.30ish, although the SEN would sometimes display the full time score in their front window.
Happy far away days but days we can recreate as we mould our own future, like other clubs do when moving into a new home. There will be different walking routes and pre match pubs but it will soon be home.
One the first bricks are layed at Weaponness I genuinely feel that a lot of the animosity still shown in some quarters will disappear in an instant as fans, both lapsed and current will believe once more.
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Radio 5 live state the headline"Notts are closing in on the title" how? They are essentially 81/3 in the 2nd innings on day 2? WTF?
Have I missed something?
could be a tight run chase if the tail wags much more…..
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Boro 4 Dinnington 0.
Boro: Woodhead 7, Belt 7, Price 8 (Kemp 76), Ingram 8, Jenkinson 8, Hotte 9, Hartley 8, Botham 7 ( Phillips 71, 7), Blott 8, Law 8 (Northen 78), Hawkes 8. Subs Unused: Nicholson.
Goals: Boro - Blott 39 & 76 pen, Hotte 45, Phillips 87.
Bookings: Boro - None.
Attendance: 358.
Referee: W Grunhill (Hull) 5.
Boro Star Man: Nathan Hotte - gets better each game.
Onwards and Upwards with the Boro.
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which i suspect it did last night, im asuming theres not a lot i can do about it, i didnt notice last nite but there a ball shaped print and
a massive dent
i seemremember the ball flying into the c.p. early in the second half towards the boro bus
christ this clubs cost me some money
Edited on 08/09/10 at 15:44:37It was probably Michael Price that hoofed it out of the stadium.
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I like it that a ’cross alluded him’. The mind boggles.
English lessons and a proofreader required at SEN, apply to Editor as soon as possible.
I think they’ve got rid of most of the sub editors so the total ignorance of the morons they employ to write the stories is often exposed. You would think a basic knowledge of the English language might be a requirement for a journalist, unhappily the SEN think otherwise.
Perhaps this particular error has ’eluded’ the editor! :)
Cynic, feel free to register your disgust with the moron who has no basic knowledge of the English language who wrote the piece.
His email is james@scarboroughathletic.com , I am sure he will be delighted to hear you believe he is a moron.
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’PLease’ ?
’ressurect’ ?
’Jehovas’ ?
’Saemer’ ?
You moron. :-)
No, those would be typos, I make many, if I was intending something to be read by the general public I would take appropriate care. If you think there’s no difference between things hastily typed on this forum and a report in OUR local paper then ….oh dear.
No, those would be typos, I make many, if I was intending something to be read by the general public I would take appropriate care. If you think there’s no difference between things hastily typed on this forum and a report in OUR local paper then ….oh dear.
I am guessing James wrote the piece after getting home from the match, and sent into the SEN to publish. I would imagine after all day at work, many hours at the match setting up the teamsheets and programmes and SeadogsLive, followed getting home and writing up his notes (compiled while on Seadogs Live in believe) he will have been up well past midnight to ensure the game was covered in Martin Dowey’s absence.
I’m sure he won’t be bothered by your uninformed berating of his work or his employment status, nor that one word was spelled incorrectly throughout what I consider to be a very well written report.
His job title is a news reporter at the Brid Free Press (as stated in the Lincoln programme) and I guess he wrote the piece as a favour to the SEN lads.
It’s easy to criticise behind a ’troll’ moniker. I doubt you’d let us know your job role cynic, so we can unfairly criticise what you/your company does? No, didn’t think so.
Great report James, keep up the good work and don’t let anonymous ’morons’ like cynic get you down.
James did an excellent report as usual, and it was understandibly error strewn in such haste, but the point is it should not have been BY THE TIME IT went to press. The completely farcical situation of seeing today’s "EVENING" News being read on the bus at 8 a.m. means that the deadlines are far tighter than they needed to be if the paper was actually an EVENING news instead of a local version of the Times/Mail/Sun/Guardian.
Which would support my point completely - Mr H is an ex retail manager (I believe) and all round good egg. He is not a journalist. He should not be writing this stuff. Those people who properly qualify have been displaced by cheaper options, it represents everything that’s wrong with this country.
Have u any idea how little time the reporters have to write these reports and do u realize that proofin your own work often leads to errors, also best be careful who u criticize as u will find they r lot closer to home than u may think. U shud be aiming your cheap shots at people much higher up the food chain rather than people who r tryin to inform u. Bet u lot never make errors in your jobs especially as major as spelling eluded wrong, naughty sports reporter:)
It’s not a case of errors in your job - everybody does that. Last night I caught the Boro Bus, if the driver had been involved in an accident or taken the wrong route that would be an error. If he hadn’t passed his driving test but was given the job because he was a cheaper option that someone who had then I think I could complain. Why is it wrong to expect someone writing in a newspaper to be able to use English in a competent manner ? Would you be happy to have an unqualified (but very keen ) person perform a medical operation on you ? It’s a disgrace that our local (and national) press has been so run down in the name of economy ( otherwise known as profit for the people at the top). Open your eyes England.
I’m guessing you read the Daily Mail right?
You really aren’t very bright are you ? Do you really think defending the rights of qualified journalists at the expense of cheaper options is a Daily Mail position ?
No not at all, but Daily Mail readers are usually doom-mongers with nothing better to do than spread negativity wherever they go.
For the record I agree that journalists and editors of newspapers should do their best to get everything correct, spelled right and general give value for money to their readers. But I am also sympathetic to the trials and tribulations of those who continue in a business which has steadily gone downhill over the past few years, and has lost upwards of 80% of it’s work-force in that time. My uncle works in the newspaper industry, his stories of management cock-ups and lack of staff training, etc are shocking.
If they make the occasional mistake with a word or two, so what? It’s not the lfe and death situation your medical/bus-driver analagy made it out to be.
It’s a Boro director who wants to help continue spreading the word of the club’s successes who volunteered his non-trained services to the paper for a few games reporting. Hardly a reason to call him a moron is it now. Still, as I say, I am sure James won’t care about your uninformed opinions of his journalistic prowess. He his other things to worry about I am sure.
Except I wasn’t getting at James ( I wasn’t aware he had written it).My point was about the decline of standards caused by cost cutting in the industry which you seem to support. Obviously morons was unfair but I insist that the analogy holds true - bus driving,medicine, boiler fitting etc require certain standard qualifications, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect some basic expertise in English.
I agree. However I also believe that without an inside knowledge of the working practises of the business you are berating, you do not qualify yourself to criticise it’s standards.
I was on a train the other day and the conductor didn’t call the name out at one of the stations. I am unsure of whether they must do so as part of their job, but without knowing whether he had made a mistake or not I simply let the issue pass by. I wasn’t about to criticise him for making a mistake which he maybe didn’t mean to do.
Same applies to your bus driver/doctor analogy. If they make a mistake - which is afterall, a human thing to do - having had very little training for te job they are in, then that is all it is - a mistake.
Jesus, I bet James is dreading his next report!!
(As an aside, I thought the rest of the report was superbly well-written, and far more in depth than we usually get. And his ratings were spot on again).
So, no one can criticise anyone unless they have inside knowledge? What a nice world that would be if that were the case…
Oh, by the way Observer, don’t put an apostrophe in ’its’ unless you mean ’it is’…
This debate is so amusing.
But, I do think we should thank James for the effort he makes, notwithstanding grammar and punctuation errors.
Childish but I can’t resist: ’it’s’ standards’….ha,ha,ha,. Repeat anybody can make mistakes (one of mine was starting this thread) but the point was really about the SEN not James, I can’t pretend to know his academic qualifications but I am more than happy to support his personal qualifications i.e. enthusiasm and hard work in support of the cause.
PS you haven’t actually declared your place of work.
Just for the record: Eluded means to have escaped/evaded by skill, daring etc. Alluded means to have referred to something indirectly. So it’s not bad spelling it’s the wrong word. Having said that, I didn’t realise it was James Hunter i thought it was an Evening News reporter and, as Cynic stated, we should expect reporters to be able to produce correct English, They get paid to write for goodness sake.
Goodness knows why I’m getting involved in this but here goes.
Cynic, you’re sounding to me very much like a Daily Mail reader. Somehow, James has put together an article about a night football match and got it into the local Evening News rag that’s released at something like 8am the next day. In amongst the rest of the tasks he’s committed himself to, I reckon plaudits are in order.
I suspect that to get a job writing for the SEN, you need GCSE English - and none of us got 100% in that, including James. With that in mind, what defines competence to write for a newspaper. Your comparison with a bus driver holds no water whatsoever - I’m not even going to go there.
Well done James. Carry on!
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Of course it’s a valid analogy. Stop defending James (more than fair) and consider that the SEN should employ journalists (with rather more than a GCSE, please) to write the bloody stuff that’s in the paper. It’s not too difficult a concept is it? I wouldn’t wipe my arse with the Daily Mail.
I'll take it that you wouldn't wipe your arse with the Daily Mail because you're too busy reading it ;-)
Edited on 08/09/10 at 15:48:00As you’re an ex director I’ll try to explain it in simple terms: saying I wouldn’t ’wipe my arse’ with it , in normal circles is an indication of contempt i.e. I don’t read it or share any values in common with it. Is that simple enough ?
I may at this point be getting a little tetchy
Oh but Cynic, this is so much fun. Please continue to be tetchy
My thinly veiled naivety as to not knowing what "wipe my arse with it" REALLY meant was clearly lost on cynic and it seems to have only served to wind him/her up, which was the objective incidentally. Thanks though cynic, I have unexpectedly found myself having fun.
To quote Basil Fawlty - it’s all bottoms with you isn’t it?
Defeat is admitted, you win that one. It’s him btw.
Doesnt James work for the sen anymore ? Always thought he did a good job
No - his biog in the Lincoln programme said ’News Reporter, Bridlington Free Press’.
I believe he was a sub-editor at the SEN until their management in their wisdom decided to get rid of all subs and let reporters write to set templates. He stayed with the same company (YRN) and changed jobs to a reporter at Brid I guess.
That’s worked well hasn’t it - the SEN looks awful since that change and let’s not forget the headline mix-up that was posted on here recently.
James’s design work for the Boro programme and other items (boolets, calendars, posters, website, etc) has been second-to-none and I know having overheard a conversation about proof-reading the programme last night that James doesn’t have the time to check everything in the programme. It’s a case of get it done, get it printed I believe.
Is it any wonder he doesn’t bother posting here anymore when people continue to berate not only his considerable work for the club, but now what he does for a living.
Cynic said something about the country getting a grip earlier. This country would be a lot better off without cynical morons berating those who just try to make things a little better for the rest of us without any thought of reward.
Who’s the Daily Mail reader now, the last sentence sounds just like the ’Big Society’ crap that the GOV speak, and as I’ve been at pains to point out I wasn’t getting at James in a personal sense at all and would do nothing but commend him for his work for SAFC so don’t try and justify the deprofessionalism (and associated Trade Union attacks) on local journalism by misdirection to the effect that I was getting at James or the work he does for the club.
"I've been at pains to point out I wasn't getting at James in a personal sense at all"
Errr - didn’t you call him a moron and question his command of the English Language? I’d say that was rather personal to be honest, and you only changed yout tune slightly when it was pointed out that a servant of SAFC wrote the piece and you wouldn’t want to upset him!
Regarding your criticism of James’s work for the club - I realise you didn’t criticise that, I was merely pointing out that he should be respected for what he does for the club, rather than be called a moron.
I shall have to leave it there I’m afraid as I now have to go to work. I just hope that, Mr Cynic, you aren’t one of my cutomers this evening as the pressure to be 100% perfect for you would be too much to cope with, and that may ironically lead to a mistake being made due to lack of concentration. But no, I won’t be telling you where I work.
a) it couldn’t be personal if I didn’t know who had written it, surely?
b) and yet you thought it important I should tell you where I worked but your employment must remain a mystery — hmmm, make your own mind up folks.
Well, all that seems perfectly clear.
It is actually. We won, therefore something else had to be found to argue about.
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From Ilkeston Advertiser: Ilkeston Town wound up in the High Court>
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By the way, it puts our situation at Scarborough FC into perspective - the sum involved at Ilkeston Town was "only" £50k owed to HMRC.
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From "This Is Derbyshire": Ilkeston Town to appeal after wind-up order
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his money on slags
but they werent bad lookers and wore la senza so they must be quality slags..
B2B you know it makes sense..
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but the pdf link (currently) does not work!
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So bri get £7,557
Bit of quick maths and the players average £66.75 per game, based on a 15 man squad.
Proof positive that they really do pay peanuts, no wonder we get their better players.
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http://www.scarborougheveningnews.co.uk/news/Scarborough39s-North-Bay-water-park.6519425.jp
Interesting news towards end of article.
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