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Ernie Moss… by Dunno

Posted: 15/2/2017 at 12:18:58, 149 views.

His daughter (Nicky) just been on Radio 2 talking about football and the link to dementia. He is 67 and very sadly suffering with severe Dementia, he is currently cared for by his daughter and her husband. Very sad to listen to.

I don’t know if you can get old radio shows on the iPlayer, but its about 14 minutes into the show where vanessa feltz is talking to her.

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RE: Ernie Moss… by Armchairdog User: Armchairdog

Posted: 15/2/2017 at 12:24:59, 94 views. In reply to 'Ernie Moss…'

This was also featured on TV on Sky News this morning. Very sad.

I think football is in denial about this problem. His daughter was saying she doesn’t expect huge sums of compensation but when you look at all the money swimming around in football these days you would think more could be done to support the families of those ex-players with dementia.

Edited on 15/02/17 at 14:35:40
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850,000 by totalshell User: totalshell

Posted: 15/2/2017 at 14:55:22, 90 views. In reply to 'RE: Ernie Moss…'

poor folk have dementia in the uk.. 1 in 6 over 80 suffer from this terrible condition. its causes /roots lay in many and varied histories. footballers who regularly headed the ball may be one group but they are very small percentage of a very small percentage ..

KitKat does it again

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The inertia from football’s authorities over dementia by Old Git

Posted: 15/2/2017 at 15:07:21, 75 views. In reply to '850,000'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/02/15/inertia-footballs-authorities-dementia-remains-staggering/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw

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The link is here by seadog365 User: seadog365

Posted: 15/2/2017 at 15:39:40, 72 views. In reply to 'Ernie Moss…'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08dcykd

Dementia/Footballers feature starts around 7 minutes in.

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Heading the ball - link to dementia by Battersea

Posted: 15/2/2017 at 15:58:24, 77 views. In reply to 'The link is here'

Looks like there has been wide coverage of this today, heard it discussed at some length on the radio this morning (Nick Ferrari, LBC).

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RE: Heading the ball - link to dementia by Burniston User: Burniston

Posted: 17/2/2017 at 13:45:14, 67 views. In reply to 'Heading the ball - link to dementia'

My gut feeling is that as the vast majority of dementia patients don’t even play football, then heading the ball is not a real issue as long as the players are fit and healthy. Again my gut feeling is that it is more down to the ‘Western’ way of life and what we put into our bodies. Heavy metals like mercury & aluminium (who drink out of cans?) are a major issue. For example it has been proved that the mercury in amalgam fillings damages the brain but the dental industry is turning a blind eye to it because of profits. A ban on amalgam is already coming in for pregnant women and children & it is a matter of time before it is banned altogether. I for one will never have another amalgam filling again & wish I knew earlier in my life to prevent the ones I do have. Of course this is just an example but there are others. Why risk corporate profits when you can blame something else like heading a ball?

PMA

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RE: RE: Heading the ball - link to dementia by Cynic

Posted: 17/2/2017 at 13:59:59, 88 views. In reply to 'RE: Heading the ball - link to dementia '

If we’re getting into anecdotal stuff Burniston, we’ve all probably seen examples of the ‘punch-drunk’ boxer. It doesn’t seem much of a stretch to compare repeatedly heading a heavy leather ball (as was) with punches to .the head. I’m sure aspects of modern life aren’t great for health either but sometimes the obvious is just that, repeated blows to the head are probably best avoided. I’m guessing that some people/skulls are different to others and it will be comparatively safe for many but not for some? But how to know?

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Just to add… by Battersea

Posted: 17/2/2017 at 20:50:44, 71 views. In reply to 'RE: RE: Heading the ball - link to dementia '

Ferrari interviewed a Professor of Neurology specialising in Dementia who mentioned that they are currently carrying out various studies to investigate any causal link between heading and dementia. For over-75’s in the general population the incidence of dementia (including early stage dementia) is around 18% and early indications show that there appears to be a much higher incidence amongst footballers in the same age group but for clear statistical significance further work needs to be done.

Other factors need to be taken into account. Ex-footballers currently over the age of 75 were using footballs that were very different to the footballs used today which are lighter and don’t have the same tendency to become waterlogged / much heavier during a game. So any test results for today’s over-75’s will not be transferable to younger generations.

Suffice to say that the risk today is likely to be less than in the days of Jeff Astle / Ernie Moss / Martin Peters etc but by how much, who knows? A lot of work needed yet.

Ernie Moss - I can still remember him knocking in a good goal for us at the Seamer Road end against Swansea in our early Football League days. Very sad. Another link to Ernie here:

http://www.peakfm.co.uk/news/local/breakthrough-for-family-of-spireites-legend-moss-as-scientists-find-link-between-footballers-and-dementia/

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